State Sen. Stan Rosenberg says the province of Quebec is likely looking ahead at the $1.2 billion improvement of rail service connecting Boston to Montreal through Springfield.
State Sen. Stan Rosenberg says the province of Quebec is likely looking ahead at the $1.2 billion improvement of rail service connecting Boston to Montreal through Springfield. Credit: AP PHOTO

When Senate President Stanley Rosenberg of Amherst traveled to Quebec recently for a conference to work out cooperative programs between Massachusetts and the Canadian province on a range of issues including higher education and business collaboration, he brought back several pieces of good news.

Among these were the possibility for direct flights to start between Boston and Quebec City in the next two years and establishment of a Collaborative Research Council to foster universities to work together on genome research and other areas, according to Rosenberg, who co-chaired the conference with Quebec National Assembly President Jacques Chagnon.

Rosenberg came back from this third Montreal conference, held Aug. 10 to 13, with a fourth session planned for October in Boston, with his mind spinning from how well the province has done for itself, including getting its state-owned Hydro-Quebec to the point of providing 98 percent of the provinceโ€™s electricity as well as selling power to other Canadian provinces โ€” and Vermont and potentially, Massachusetts.

The stateโ€™s recently signed energy legislation that calls for procurement of 1,600 megawatts of offshore wind and hydropower, and Hydro-Quebec โ€” the worldโ€™s fourth largest hydropower producer, expects to be a player here, said Rosenberg. The public utility has also expanded into telephone and internet service, extending service into the giant provinceโ€™s hard-to reach pockets, he said.

โ€œIt was pretty amazing to hear how their 40-year visions (toward making Quebec energy independent) are coming to fruition.โ€ In the area of transportation, he learned of work being done over the past three years on electrification of trains and buses, Rosenberg said, with a pilot project over the next three years to coordinate that system to possibly offering ideas for the troubled Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority.

More staggering still for Rosenberg was Quebecโ€™s $254 billion public retirement system, where the provinceโ€™s โ€œrainy dayโ€ reserve fund totals a staggering $8 billion that generates $450 million for the stateโ€™s operating budget.

โ€œTheir rainy-day fund is not just a fund for when it โ€˜rains,โ€™โ€ said Rosenberg, contrasting it with the Bay Stateโ€™s current $1.3 billion, which Massachusetts has managed to gradually build to maintain its high bond rating, and which had reached $2.3 billion at the start of the 2008 recession. โ€œItโ€™s a moneymaker for them, and they havenโ€™t touched (the principal) since they put their finances back in order โ€ฆ and created a new scheme for how to do this.โ€

Instead of the Massachusetts model, where the rainy-day fund is invested by the state treasurer, he said, Quebecโ€™s fund is invested by the retirement system.

With $254 billion in assets, that retirement system plans to build a new $3 billion train line โ€” paying for planning and construction of the project itself, said Rosenberg.

โ€œItโ€™s vertical integration from financing to construction, then theyโ€™ll turn it overโ€ to the province,โ€ said Rosenberg, who guesses that Quebec officials were showing off their plans because they hope also to invest in Bostonโ€™s long-stalled rail link of its North and South train stations, estimated at $3 billion.

Whatโ€™s more, Rosenberg said, the province is likely looking ahead at the $1.2 billion improvement of rail service connecting Boston to Montreal through Springfield.

โ€œIโ€™m sitting there watching this, thinking, โ€˜Wait a minute: How does this provinceโ€ โ€” whose population of 8 million isnโ€™t that much larger than Massachusettsโ€™ 6.7 million โ€” โ€œend up with an $8 billion rainy day fund, which contributes almost a half-billion dollars a year into the operating budget, because they donโ€™t have to even touch the rainy-day fund? And they just keep building it. And how does a pension system do a $3 billion train project for Montreal, and then want … financing and building our north-south railway? And a few years later, after that, they want to do $3 billion project in Massachusetts, even if they screw up a project and have to eat it … . Itโ€™s a whole different way of thinking.โ€

While Rosenberg marveled at what he called โ€œsuch impressive, very strategic thinking and how they integrate things,โ€ and criticized Massachusettsโ€™ โ€œsiloedโ€ approach, he acknowledged that the way provincial government in Canada is set up is entirely different.

Yet, he added, โ€œThat sophisticated public management thinking behind how theyโ€™ve dealt with their financial problems have come out of it to have that enormous strength,โ€ is anything butprovincial.