HADLEY — An effort to carve off the commercial sites of Trader Joe’s grocery store and Chase Bank from the Hampshire Mall property could be hindered by town zoning rules related to parking, access and setbacks, according to members of the Planning Board.

Being presented the concept of creating “pad sites,” or out parcels, for the two 375 Russell St. businesses, by attorney Thomas Reidy of Bacon Wilson PC in Amherst, board members noted their concerns with breaking them away from the larger mall site.

Planning Board Clerk William Dwyer said the developments of both Trader Joe’s and the Chase Bank were permitted by the town as part of the mall’s development, meaning they didn’t have to fully comply with a bylaw requiring 2 square feet of parking for each square foot of building.

Already, parking for Trader Joe’s spills out into the main parking lot, across the mall’s ring road, Dwyer said. “All of that is well and good when it’s all one big parcel,” Dwyer said.

The insufficient parking at Trader Joe’s is also a worry for Planning Board Chairman James Maksimoski.

“When Trader Joe’s is busy, and that’s quite often, their parking lot is nowhere near big enough to support the people going into that store,” Maksimoski said. “They have to park into the mall — there’s just not enough vehicle parking.”

Reidy explained that his work is being done on behalf of an asset manager, and that it’s likely the lender for the $7 million acquisition of the 367 Russell St. mall at a foreclosure auction last June is seeking revenue from the sales of the new out parcels.

The Spinoso Real Estate Group of Syracuse, New York, is now managing the mall property that was sold to Deutsche Bank Trust Co. Americas and Wells Fargo Commercial Mortgage Securities Inc., which holds the mortgage on the property.

Reidy explained that part of the complication in creating the pad sites is not to involve the Target store, which already owns its parcel. Target, he said, also has both operational and easement agreements with the mall owner and assorted internal and external restrictions.

Planners cautioned that creating the separate parcels would mean access to their parking areas would be across other than frontage, since the frontage for both would be on Route 9, and there would be insufficient setbacks from the mall property. The Trader Joe’s store is 16 feet from the mall property, rather than the necessary 40 feet.

Dwyer said there are “layers of concerns.” “I think this is a situation where your frontage is illusory because you can’t access it,” Dwyer said. “The mall as a whole has adequate frontage, but you don’t have real frontage in this situation, I don’t think.”

Maksimoski said to avoid the access across other than frontage, curb cuts would have to be sought from the state Department of Transportation, which likely wouldn’t be granted.

Planning Board member Joseph Zgrodnik said planners would like to promote the vitality of the shopping center as much as possible. “We don’t want another dead mall, like the old Mountain Farms Mall was referred to,” Zgrodnik said.

But Zgrodnik wondered if it is within the board’s bailiwick to allow these changes to happen.

Other business

■Asked Jonathan Carr of Carr’s Ciderhouse at 295 River Drive to return with more formal and accurate plans for installing a 12-foot-by-72-foot open air pavilion, with a canopy on top, that would protect several picnic tables near its barn. Guests uses those picnic tables when hard cider is being served at events.

■Heard plans for installation of a new storage structure next to American River Nutrition, 333 Venture Way, which could be complicated due to insufficient setbacks and proximity to wetlands.

■Offered a farewell to Tom Quinlan, who is departing as Hadley’s building commissioner and zoning enforcement, for what he is calling “other opportunities.”

“Much appreciation for your assistance and cooperation with the Planning Board,” Maksimoski said.

“I really appreciate all the support and all your knowledge,” Quinlan told board members.